Re: Straight wall pistol brass care
Posted: 12 Apr 2014 17:09
.30-30 is fairly short lived too
Home for the "Low Life Lee Lovers! The Forum for the Lee Precision Enthusiast! This site is not associated with Lee Precision nor is Lee Precision responsible for this site's content.
https://www.lee-loader.com/
I took the legal advice long ago not to carry reloads for self defense, because of how that could be used against you in civil court. I carry "Federal Guard Dog Home Defense". The words "Home Defense" sound better to the elderly lady in the jury box, that never heard about reloading in her life, than something like hollow point.Model 52 wrote:For self defense loads, I load into new brass, or if I'm in a bit of a pinch, once fired brass, but I won't trust it past that for an SD load. I also sort the cases by head stamp if I'm using once fired brass as consistency in velocity is very important.
My major purpose for hand loading a self defense round is when I need to get a specific velocity in my pistol from a hollow point that will ensure it gets optimum penetration.
Massad Ayoob pushed that point pretty hard, but the only case I've ever heard about where it was a problem was a case where a guys wife committed suicide with his revolver. The forensic analysis noted a lack of the expected level of powder residue given the range and suspected she was shot from a greater distance. The issue was that she'd used a very light target load, rather than the full power load they assumed given the lack of other rounds (or different rounds - I forget which) in the other cylinders and the defense had to demonstrate how a lighter load would have given the lower amount of powder residue at self inflicted ranges that was consistent with the evidence collected.Steve wrote:I took the legal advice long ago not to carry reloads for self defense, because of how that could be used against you in civil court. I carry "Federal Guard Dog Home Defense". The words "Home Defense" sound better to the elderly lady in the jury box, that never heard about reloading in her life, than something like hollow point.Model 52 wrote:For self defense loads, I load into new brass, or if I'm in a bit of a pinch, once fired brass, but I won't trust it past that for an SD load. I also sort the cases by head stamp if I'm using once fired brass as consistency in velocity is very important.
My major purpose for hand loading a self defense round is when I need to get a specific velocity in my pistol from a hollow point that will ensure it gets optimum penetration.
Made good sense to me so I like to pass on the advice. If I lived in bear country I would feel different about it.
Me either! The two legal defense funds I subscribe to, lawyers on call, have no problems with it. As far as lead bullets go, I have personally tested my 32 ACP, 380 Auto (both bullets), 9mm Luger, 9mm Makarov, and 45 ACP designs on feral hogs at 21 feet with shots through the rib cage. Never lost one. The two that I have shot with the Taurus 732 TCP using the TL314-70-RF was pretty amazing, at impact they both had the same reaction. They stopped walking and fell over dead. I've killed over a dozen hogs with the 380 Auto using the TL358-100-RF and TL358-125-RF, the later being the bullet I also shoot from my Rossi 351 38 Spl. I've killed a coyote with my TL255-50-RF but haven't had a feral hog walk through the confines of my "test range" yet.mr surveyor wrote:I have absolutely NO fear of carrying what I hand load, hypothetical legal implications or not.
I do tend to carry hand loads in my "Sunday best" brass though, but I'm not one to push the limits even near book max loads anyway, or use the latest "fad bullets".
Never seen or heard of a "good shoot" case in Texas that hinged on the ammo used.
And, as for straight walled brass care .... in general I shoot it till it either splits at the case mouth or looks too thin to push ... if too thin, it gets light loads until it splits. The new or better brass is reserved for the heavier loads.