What am I doing wrong?

jdrslyr75 · Post by **jdrslyr75** » 30 Dec 2013 20:50

Bob, I am not going to argue with you, especially since you are more experienced than I am. They very well could be crimped, I just don't know exactly what I'm looking for. I should search for some pics of crimped primers online. If they are crimped, what tool is used to remove them without de "CAP" itating (sorry for the bad pun, couldn't resist) them. From what I understand the super swage tool is used on the case after the primer has been removed. Also, are there any budget minded (read cheap, because that's what I am) primer pocket swagers on the market? I realize they won't be as fast, but my time is cheap. Thanks for all of the replies and keep them coming everybody

Post by **daboone** » 31 Dec 2013 06:51

Do you see any corrosion?
The only time I've seen the decapping operation pierce the primer or rip through it as you are are seeing was with some corroded M1 Carbine brass. That brass was not only crimped but the corrosion had welded it in place. Because of this 200 of 1600 case were lost to be recycled for a lead exchange at a local metal recycler.

jdrslyr75 · Post by **jdrslyr75** » 31 Dec 2013 12:53

Well I have egg all over my face! Found some pics of crimped primers on the web and confirmed that I do have crimped primers. I was looking for more of a stake style crimp and overlooked the circumferential crimp on my brass. Apparently, some primers do have a stake style crimp but most are circumferential. Learn something new every day! I'm off to grab my counter sink from the shop, thanks for all the help!

Post by **Maximumbob54** » 31 Dec 2013 15:09

RCBS has a primer pocket swage die that works well enough but you have to set it up just right and sort the brass by lot, batch, brand, or whatever. The idea is that you want to make sure all the brass you are doing has a uniform case web thickness or you will warp the rod that is pushing from the inside the case to swage the pocket. I think that is as cheap as it gets. I bought mine and when trying to process a pile of milsurp brass I quickly found I would rather spend the cash on the Dillon offering. But the RCBS die did work, it's just painful slow.

As for decapping, it's a hit or miss. I doubt it's worth it to try and soak them in anything to break up the sealer if it's there and usually that just cracks up anyways. I had trouble with not being able to set the Lee sizing die's decapping rod tight enough that it wouldn't just keep pressing up in the collet. I even stripped the threads trying to set one tight enough. So I bought a regular (Not AR or small base) RCBS .223 sizing and decapping die and that made short work of that pile. But then I wanted to start decapping before sizing and ordered another Lee universal decapping die and it punched them out just fine. I hate to say it but there is no perfect tool for this and it may be luck of the draw on if a tool will rip through them or not. On the plus side it's only a worry once.

Post by **Zippidydoodah** » 01 Jan 2014 02:42

Lee makes a depriming tool and socket to set the shell in. It is primarily used to deprime crimped military cases so you don't bend your rods. You hit the depriming rod with a hammer and it should work fine. After you have them deprimed, remove the crimp and you shouldn't have any more problems . The deprimer comes in 30 cal and 223.

Post by **Maximumbob54** » 01 Jan 2014 10:11

I didn't even know they made these!!!!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/297408 ... 22-caliber

I need one!!!

Post by **62chevy** » 01 Jan 2014 17:20

Maximumbob54 wrote:I didn't even know they made these!!!!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/297408 ... 22-caliber

I need one!!!

Wonder if my Lee Loader decapper will work? have to look and see.

Post by **Ranch Dog** » 02 Jan 2014 06:13

62chevy wrote:Wonder if my Lee Loader decapper will work? have to look and see.

I went on the Lee website and looked at the part numbers to compare them the decapper and decapper chamber are the same ones used in the Lee 223 Rem Lee Loader.

Post by **Maximumbob54** » 02 Jan 2014 13:45

So they are just parts to the Lee Loaders??? That's some sneaky awesome marketing...!

gray wolf · Post by **gray wolf** » 08 Jun 2014 14:47

Good suggestion. I figured if I ruined the brass with a torch, I would be no worse off than I already am, but the hair dryer idea is much better. Thanks RD!
If you over heat the case head you can be a lot worse off than you think.
It does not have to glow orange to be super soft, ( case head separation ) perhaps not on the very next shot but it could happen for sure. Just sayin

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