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Re: Help me identify 308 Dies

Posted: 25 Sep 2016 14:40
by 62chevy
skynetsysadmin wrote:Yeah I am pretty sure these are both factory crimp dies. I just bought a 223 factory crimp die and it matches the shape and design of the die on the left with the o rings at the base. The other die is shaped exactly the same way, just the base is plastic without the o rings. Maybe and older design. It does resemble the full length sizing die from the outside, but it doesn't have the threads internally needed to hold the pin. And it also doesn't have the neck shape internally.

Thanks for the input. I got these from a garage sale and they didn't know exactly what they were. I appreciate the help, I'm sure I'll have lot more questions. New to rifle reloading, only have experience with pistol reloading.
Could be but look just like my Lee Collet neck sizing Die.

Re: Help me identify 308 Dies

Posted: 25 Sep 2016 15:49
by Ranch Dog
I work with 7 different collet die sets, and had a couple of others for cartridges I no longer shoot and there is no plastic insert at the bottom of the die. The unthreaded portion of the die body is too short for even the short collet dIe body. Also, the die body barrel is hollow, without feature. These have a step in them like either a bullet seating die or a non-factory crimp, crimp die.

Re: Help me identify 308 Dies

Posted: 25 Sep 2016 18:17
by 62chevy
Image

This is the Factory Crimp Die.

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This is the Lee Collet neck sizing Die.
You can see it does nothing to the shoulder.

Re: Help me identify 308 Dies

Posted: 25 Sep 2016 18:22
by Ranch Dog
They might be the new trim die?

Re: Help me identify 308 Dies

Posted: 25 Sep 2016 23:09
by Fyodor
Looks like Michael's right with the trim dies. They need to fix the case from rotating with the cutter, the O-rings are to accomodate for that.

On this cutaway you can guess the O-rings at the base of the die:
http://leeprecision.com/quick-trim/

Oh, and "Herzlich willkommen" from Germany!

Re: Help me identify 308 Dies

Posted: 26 Sep 2016 06:20
by 62chevy
Ranch Dog wrote:They might be the new trim die?
Yup I think you are right RD. I assumed the top knurled part was a cap but looking at the bottom picture looks like the hole is straight through and if the OP can confirm that we will know for sure.