.30-30 lever

[RBHarter]

If you do it before sizing you'll keep the carbon,dirt etc out of your sizer but that's probably a negligent point with the neck only collet sizer .

[Poppop]

I'm using the safety prime on the turret press and full sizing die. So when I de-cap it also sizes.
Should I clean and dry cases prior to de-cap/sizing? This way the dies won't get messed up. I can clean the primer pockets after de-cap as an extra step

[Steve]

If I were using a ultrasonic cleaner I would use a "Lee Universal Decapping Die" before doing anything with the cases, then clean, then neck size.

[RBHarter]

Actually I don't know that it makes a bit of difference Ive run 1000s of pieces from 9mm to Win mags and simply wiping them clean before rolling them across my lube pad and I think maybe there might be a line in the 1st 30-06 die and I have a 38 die I should polish but it was marked up before I got it .

This is 1 of the controversy items . For maximum die life and minimized chance of scarring a die yes they should be clean 1st . Lots of folks tumble for 20 min then size/decap and tumble until clean . This removes all the loose stuff and dirt before sizing then removes the sizing lube. Any resonable care will avoid the potential for a die scar. I think cleaning more than once per cycle is excessive. I actually only clean every 3rd cycle or so and always with pick up brass.

[Ranch Dog]

One question I still have is when should I clean the shells with my ultrasonic? Seem logical to do it after de-cap/sizing, and before trimming,that should also take the slippery stuff of the shell.

Yep, that would be the time to clean them. It would even be better to decap them, clean them, and then size them as sometimes the necks get out of round when they are cleaned.

[mr surveyor]

One question I still have is when should I clean the shells with my ultrasonic? Seem logical to do it after de-cap/sizing, and before trimming,that should also take the slippery stuff of the shell.

Yep, that would be the time to clean them. It would even be better to decap them, clean them, and then size them as sometimes the necks get out of round when they are cleaned.

That's the procedure I've come to like. The Lee Universal Depriming die makes that work like a dream. All of my brass gets deprimed before it goes into the bath, then it comes out clean, inside, outside, primer pocket and flash hole.


jd

[Poppop]

Bought a universal depriming die this AM. I can now use the process that you suggested.
Thanks

[Poppop]

Loaded 30 rds 10 ea 27.5 gr, 28.5 gr & 29.0 gr of IMR 3031 using 170 gr FP Hornady & CCI primers.
Each load felt great, neither too weak or strong. I have to pick 1 of the 3.
Now my old eyes saw double cross hairs thru the 4X scope. I think its time for a change of scopes.
Thanks to all who helped me with the 30-30 questions.

[mr surveyor]

Loaded 30 rds 10 ea 27.5 gr, 28.5 gr & 29.0 gr of IMR 3031 using 170 gr FP Hornady & CCI primers.
Each load felt great, neither too weak or strong. I have to pick 1 of the 3.
Now my old eyes saw double cross hairs thru the 4X scope. I think its time for a change of scopes.
Thanks to all who helped me with the 30-30 questions.

Poppop

Being one that has made his living for about 40 years using crosshairs (yep, that's still a part of surveying), losing the ability to even resolve the crosshairs has diminished my "usefulness" in my business (actually for the last 12 years since having lasik surgery). Fortunately, my Son followed me in the profession, and decided to "stick around". I can't see irons with my readers on as well as I could 15 years ago before the great loss, and very little helps with most scopes either. I recently removed a 1973 vintage Bushnell Sportview (4X) from my favorite 336 and replaced it with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9, hoping for better crosshair resolution. Before the "switch" my old 336 would easily shoot poa-1 moa groups off a rest. Now it's 2 moa with the "better" scope. I'm considering going back to the old Sportview. I doesn't have near the light gathering quality as the Nikon, but for some reason I can find the cross hairs better.

Losing vision is frustrating.

jd