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March QOTM

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 13:51
by Ohio3Wheels
Gun powder, specifically smokeless. Smokeless is either single base or double base and the major differences are percentage nitroglycerin and additives in the case of double and additives in the case of single along with shape. So the question is - why do some powders cost so much more than others?

Occurred to me today when I picked up a canister of Varget and it was by far thee most expensive powder on the shelves.

Make smoke,

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 14:44
by daboone
My guesses: Demand and /or the stuff made further away the higher the cost.

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 17:00
by mr surveyor
I have an idea .... because they can


jd

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 17:05
by Macd
mr surveyor wrote:I have an idea .... because they can


jd
Charge what the market will bear. I can buy Vectan powder (France) cheaper than the stuff made for Hodgedon in this country.

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 04 Mar 2019 18:36
by RBHarter
The stick powder requires specialized extrusion tools for the various powders to control rate of burn . Some have as many 9 longitudinal holes through the kernel some none . The spherical powders have to be tumbled for each successive layer of coatings some have 7 layers . I got nothing for single base flake powders aside from nitro content .
The Dots , Unique , and color name powders are long , long paid off for R&D , so those should be pretty cheap . Of course the more you buy the cheaper it gets .
The larger volume powders in consumption terms seem to be less expensive . IG ; 4895 is more than 4350 and both are less expensive then H322 or H335 .
In shotguns where the flake powders rule the slower powders are more expensive but they use more weight and and the same volume . Made me cry when I loaded a few shot shells with Unique at 25 gr after loading 1000s of pistol rounds at 3.5-9.0 gr .

The Jonny come lately powders will always be more expensive because they're still paying off R&D and in some cases new equipment that is exclusive use to a particular powder or family of powders or have some exotic coating or both . The E powders come to mind .

Costs may also be related to demand for some .

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 05 Mar 2019 04:25
by GasGuzzler
Varget was more than Lil'Gun?

LG is by far the most around here (by around here I mean if I go to Dallas)...about $29 per "pound". Oh, and Trail Boss is through the roof if you consider price by the ounce. Good thing I have no use for it.

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 05 Mar 2019 05:08
by Ranch Dog
Read through this but GG caught it, Trail Boss is over the top when you consider $/lb.

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 05 Mar 2019 06:28
by farmerjim
The IMR 4350 that I am loading with now was purchased back in the 60's from Herters for $1.69 a pound. I did a lot of shotgun loading and bought 4 pound kegs of Herco for $6. Inflation has driven up the price of everything.

Re: March QOTM

Posted: 05 Mar 2019 10:28
by Ohio3Wheels
GasGuzzler wrote:Varget was more than Lil'Gun?

LG is by far the most around here (by around here I mean if I go to Dallas)...about $29 per "pound". Oh, and Trail Boss is through the roof if you consider price by the ounce. Good thing I have no use for it.
varget of $40 and lil'gun was $32

All interesting points being made.

Make smoke,