newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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Ok, I got this info from Hodgdon reloading. It is for the powder I will be using, which is HD-38. My question is, I cannot find the exact bullet I will be using, 9mm 0.355" 115gr FMJ RN #35557, Hodgdon has a .356" Lead round nose, I'm not really comfortable using this info since it's not 100% applicable, where do I go to get accurate load data for what I'll be using?

BULLET WEIGHT115 GR. LRN
ManufacturerHodgdon
PowderHP-38
Bullet Diameter.356"
C.O.L.1.100"
Starting Load
Grains4.3
Velocity (ft/s)1,079
Pressure28,400 CUP
Maximum Load
Grains4.8
Velocity (ft/s)1,135
Pressure32,000 CUP
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Re: newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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I don't yet have that powder but the OAL is really short IMO.

Someone else will have a better answer I bet.
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This is a from Handloads.com
Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source
GDHP 5.1 gr HP38 1,167 fps 1.125" CCI 500 Hodgdon
Suggested starting load: 4.6 gr
Pressure: 28,100 CUP
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Re: newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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I sent you a PM with some Hornady data. HP38 and W231 is the same powder.

Hope this helps.
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Now I know why I don't have that powder (might edit your first post for search accuracy later).

The data you posted in your first post is about what my Hornady book has for W231. See Okie's post above.

The load in post 3 might look really hot but like I mentioned, the OAL is 0.025" greater so more powder is needed in the extra space. My 9mm load using another powder is at 1.135" or 0.035" "too long".....
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Re: newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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A friend of mine, Charley, wrote this. There is no way I could say it better than he did. It really doesn't answer your specific question but then it will give you the understanding you need to deal with "missing lead load" data.
He has given me permission to cut and paste this gem on handloading. I've posted it on this site before.


" After reading the umpteenth question about finding a load for a bullet that isn't listed in a loading manual, I thought I might write down my thoughts on the matter, and the methods I use to find a safe, useful load.

Please note, I'm not slamming those who can't find data. One of the first bits of advice we get/got as beginning handloaders is to FOLLOW THE MANUAL. They have tested, safe loads, and needed advice on how not to blow yourself or your gun into small pieces.

If you have a cast bullet for a handgun that you can't find data for , you can safely use the data for the next heavier bullet listed. It likely won't be the best load, but will be a starting point you can work from. If you have a 150 grain cast bullet, and the manuals list data for 100, 125, 140, and 158 grain bullets, use the 158 grain start data, and you will be in the ball park.

You can also use jacketed START data for cast bullets, assuming the bullet profiles are similar, and bearing surface isn't radically different. Cast bullets typically will give somewhat less pressure than jacketed bullets.

The solid bullets of copper/bronze alloys are a different animal, and I wouldn't extrapolate data for them. Harder than lead alloy, different friction co-efficient. Also behave differently that jacketed bullets, because of the lack of a lead/lead alloy core.

OAL is important, but not the overwhelming issue some make it to be. Using START data, seat to the longest practical length you can (less than cylinder length for revolvers, less than magazine/chamber length with autopistols). If the round chambers properly, without needing an extra "bump" to close the slide, (evidence you might have a bullet contacting the rifling), you will be fine.

You must research YOUR gun, and YOUR load. Don't blindly follow any data, from manuals (they get corrections at times, wrong information sometimes makes it to the printers!), or internet information from various sources, including Handloadersbench. Filter what you find. If you are inexperienced, ALWAYS USE THE STARTING DATA, and work up from there.

One more thought...a Handloader is someone who can interpret load information, determine if it is suitable for his firearm, and work up a load that will work for his purposes...plinking, hunting, self defense, target work, etc. He makes it work, because he tailors it to his gun, and purposes.
A reloader is basically a handle pulling monkey, who cranks out a load using information he found somewhere. It is pretty much the same as shooting factory, except the machinery is different.
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Re: newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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Okie44,
It helped greatly!!! I cannot thank you enough =)
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No worries I'll get even :lol: +guns
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Re: newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

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:!: I didn't see anyone else's posts, I would like to thank everyone for their input. Daboone, I'm glad you posted Charlies write up. Very informative and I have already saved it to a text file +1
I'm sure I'll continue to reference it often!
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Re: newbie clarification question on 9mm load data

Post by mikld »

Jes a thought; I always tell newer reloaders to find a load, in their reloading manual(s) first, then buy components. Many fewer headaches, questions...
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