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Re: progressive press

Postby kmw1954 » 09 May 2019 11

I don't use or own a Lock-out die myself but from some of the stories I read there are some people reloading tat should not be allowed anywhere near a press w/o one. Seems some just refuse to look into the cases.

I have a progressive press because I want to handle each case as few times as possible and to reduce the number of handle pulls to a minimum. I truly have no interest in how fast I can go or how many rounds per minute/hour. If I wanted to fondle my brass I'd have stayed with a single stage press.
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Re: progressive press

Postby larryw » 09 May 2019 12

kmw1954 wrote:I don't use or own a Lock-out die myself but from some of the stories I read there are some people reloading tat should not be allowed anywhere near a press w/o one. Seems some just refuse to look into the cases.

I truly have no interest in how fast I can go or how many rounds per minute/hour.


+1 +1

Not only stories I have read but a couple people I know should not
be allowed anywhere near a reloading room.

Although my loading has been reduced drastically the last several
years, I still load single stage sometimes, & sometimes Pro 1000
sometimes turret???? All depends on what my Swiss cheese looking
brain decides. As far as handling brass, I don't mind, I thoroughly
enjoy full & complete brass prep. Wet tumbling, for me anymore is reserved for unknown brass, range pick up, trades Etc. My known brass gets the buzz bucket for a few minutes. The more times I handle brass, the more I know it's the best it can be. Even after all my OCD brass
prep & handling I have on occasion found a piece or two I still wasn't happy with.
As far as depriming goes, when it comes to the progressive, I'm an off press guy, keep the crud out. Priming, I do see a difference & like
hand priming, just hope I don't blow another one up. Also like & use the old Lee Ram Prime & Auto Prime II.
I guess the bottom line is, if the final product is quality, & you have
enjoyed the process, & that process is as safe as possible, & you have a big grin on your face whenever you press the trigger then, all is well!!
I know, I know!! Shut up Larry & go back to sleep..
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Re: progressive press

Postby PBaholic » 10 May 2019 20

Fyodor wrote:
PBaholic wrote:I find better consistency with hand priming off the press.


I found water in primers after two weeks of drying time.

I check every single cartridge before storing. With .45Auto I have about 1% high primers. I reseat them (I know, not good practice) on my LEE bench prime. Worst cartridge to load is the .38spl. About 3-4% high primers and 0.5-1% flipped primers. I really don't like small primers a lot.


I NEVER have high primers anymore. I still find an occasional flipped primer (maybe 1 out of 1,000), but since I switched away from the square primer trays to the triangular ones, this doesn't happen too often. The square trays would flip the primer in the feed. It seemed like it did it 1 out of 100 and %@*&$ me off ever time it happened.

I don't wet tumble with old primers in. I de-cap and size my fired brass and then Ultra-sonic and wet tumble. This way my primer pockets are perfect too. I have a 4" 120V box fan mounted on my radial arm saw facing down, where I dry the brass in a screened basket. It's good to go after only an hour.
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Re: progressive press

Postby PBaholic » 10 May 2019 20

kmw1954 wrote:My philosophy is if I was going to take the time and decap then wet tumble then prime all off the press then why bother with a 4 or 5 position progressive press? Might as well just go back to using an old Lee 3 hole turret press. Charge, seat, crimp, all done! Or Charge, lock-out, seat/crimp, all done.


The Breech Lock Pro is only a 4 hole press. It's designed to De-Cap and prime in the 1st hole, but I now use that for powder. Hole #2 is for the RCBS Lock-Out. Hole #3 for Bullet set, and #4 for Crimp.

I can easily make 800, 45 ACP's per hour on the Breech Lock Pro. I used a Lee Turret previously, and could only get maybe 1/3rd of that, and had to do 4 times the cranking.

Again, I'm splitting up the process for consistency.
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Re: progressive press

Postby PBaholic » 10 May 2019 20

Fyodor wrote:When you don't use a bullet feeder, I find the lockout die not necessary. You'll have to check every case anyway, when placing the bullet.


I actually can't see the powder level when I'm placing the bullet. I find this with 45 ACP, 38/357 and 45 Colt. I guess maybe I'm sitting to low.

My biggest issue used to be no powder rounds. You would get cranking away, not paying enough attention, and realize you've been out of powder for some time. That's enough to really ruin your day...
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Re: progressive press

Postby Fyodor » 13 May 2019 01

PBaholic wrote:realize you've been out of powder for some time
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My process is to always refill primers and powder at the same time. Even with large capacity cartridges, primers are empty way before powder. So when I refill primers, I also top up the powder level.

I've beeng doing this since the beginning of my reloading career. Before I rolled my own, a friend made the ammo for me. And he brought me 8 boxes of ammo to one match, with three boxes being without powder. It was pure luck, that I used the "right" ones for the main match, but when I wanted to shoot some side matches, I cycled over one hundert rounds through my rifle without any one going bang. That was embarrassing and taught me a lesson.
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Re: progressive press

Postby Ranch Dog » 13 May 2019 05

Fyodor wrote:
PBaholic wrote:realize you've been out of powder for some time


My process is to always refill primers and powder at the same time. Even with large capacity cartridges, primers are empty way before powder. So when I refill primers, I also top up the powder level.

Very good measure and what I use. The exception, for me, would be if the bullet feeder dictates the reload sooner. If that feeder requires the reload, then powder and primers are reloaded at the same time.
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